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Eric Shang Living Asylum 203	Posted - 2015.01.08 15:25:00 - [1] - Quote Sorry I was not at the event but I would just like to put in my 2 pence of info on this from a outside point of view as I feel IWANTYOURISKMYWAY Is wrong in this. I Want ISK wrote: The prize originally was intended for the final blow on the titan. The final blow went to the defense fleet. So the rules where that the last person to shoot it gets the prize. I Want ISK wrote: The defense fleet had a major logistical advantage and intel around the solar system. The defense fleet was not against everyone else. It was a free for all. After all, not blue, shoot it. So the Titan had a defense fleet and this is a shock to you? I Want ISK wrote: The outcome of the defense fleet would not have been the same if it had been anyone else, because then that group would not have had the advantage that the defense fleet had. We actually would have liked to see a group hijack the titan and hold it till they decided to kill it which is likely to happen. So is this not what the defense fleet did? They defended the titan and then killed the Titan. I Want ISK wrote: In the end, the defense fleet that WAS organized by Nassh got the final blow on the titan. The defense fleet has been connected to Nassh. Nashh has been playing for some time now and know many people in EVE. He ran EVE_NT event last year and has ran events before. He met many more people in RL at EVE_NT so what is your point here? That because the Bastards where part of Shadow Cartel more than a Year ago and seeing as Shadow Cartel was the fleet who where deffending the Titan and also now that the Titan was killed by a Shadow guy that Nashh is to blame for this? That some how Nashh planned this to happen? Like Nashh not only runs The Bastard Alliance but also tells Shadow Cartel what to do? LOL I Want ISK wrote: The defense fleet knew 48 hours before everyone else where the titan would be located. I am not sure if you know this but it is a TITAN! When you jump it into system people hitting Dscan know its in system and anybody could have guessed it maybe is the Titan for the Event or told people about the fact that there is a new TiTan in a specific system. I fly my ships from a Asylum My Pirate Journey: http://ericshangthepirate.wordpress.com/
Eric Shang Living Asylum 203	Posted - 2015.01.08 15:25:51 - [2] - Quote I Want ISK wrote: The defense fleet set up an impenetrable barrier that never engaged more than 250 people at once, even though there were 1700 people in local. (a defense barrier of reported 230+ members) So the defence fleet was to good at defending a Titan that all of EVE could have come and shoot at? Dam you should give them a prize for doing their job correctly. I Want ISK wrote: The final blow was the only condition for winning. This caused us to change the giveaways to top damage. Ok so now you changing the rules of the even after the event? This just does not sit well with me at all. The rules where simple. Last hit get prize. You cant change the rules after the event. You are breaking the contract you setup before the event. You cant be sponsor and then judge the contest not to your liking after the event has been done and then change the outcome of the prize to your liking... I smell a bit of I give you the ISk and you give me 50% back deal going on here. Last hit gets the prize. You owe the person with the last hit ISK. I Want ISK wrote: This is why we concluded with still sponsoring the live event (as we have bankers that will be there to do the giveaways of the rest of the ISK) but no longer sponsoring in-game events with this third party. The sanctity of competition was compromised. Hell If I was Nashh and you pulled stuff like this I would ask you to not attend at all. Who says that you wount change your mind mid event with the prizes you giving away on the day because you simply felt like the wrong person won. I fly my ships from a Asylum My Pirate Journey: http://ericshangthepirate.wordpress.com/
Eric Shang Living Asylum 205	Posted - 2015.01.08 19:08:22 - [3] - Quote AMGSiR wrote: You seemed to miss the entire point here; The defense fleet was contracted by Nash to protect the Titan, they had a tactical advantage to the event as they knew where the Titan would be and had time to setup for the event in said system upwards of 48 hours prior to the events start. They knew they didn't deserve the prize, and Nash admitted such right on the EVE Radio stream himself. Ok I see you cleared it up for me now... So Nashh Contacted Shadow and asked them to defend the Titan and they did do this a little to well and so no one could kill the Titan? Firstly - Good Work Shadow for actually showing EVE what good Logistics looks like. Secondly - If you have been to null and there is a Titan to kill and the POS is going out of reinforcement at a set time you also know that there are people coming and you setup for defence. So no diffrence here to what Shadow did on the day. I think what has happend here is that Shadow is actually really good at PVP and maybe thought that more dreads, supers and other titans might show up and prepaired for a good defence but instead got frigates and battleships. This resulted in no one being able to break the Titan or the defence fleet. Who should then get tthe ISK? Is shadow to blame for being to good at logistics? AMGSiR wrote: I Want Isk didn't just randomly change the rules, he adjusted them to allow someone who wasn't part of the event to win AFTER talking to Nash and finding out the defense fleet is who got the last hit. It wasn't fair to give it to the team who were basically involved with the event, but it also wasn't fair to just give the reward to nobody -- so it was given to the only other practical person; the one with the most damage, who thankfully wasn't involved with the Titan's defense. This makes sense and I can see why they did this. Thanks again for clearing that up for me. So why has IWANTYOURISKMYWAY then had this massive fallout with Nashh over this? Event was held and from what I can tell shadow did a amazing job at defending thinking bigger ships like dreads, supers and so on are going to show up but do not and so are faced with Frigates to Battleship fleets. They drag the event on as everyone is having fun and after 4 hours of defending I guess got tired of fighting and had to go do some RL stuff so killed the Titan. Payment was then changed to top damage who was not part of shadow cartel so all is actually good. Event is actually a success. Why would IWANTISK then throw out the toys and start bad mouthing Nashh? This makes no sense to me and it just looks really bad for IWANTISK. I fly my ships from a Asylum My Pirate Journey: http://ericshangthepirate.wordpress.com/

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